From sean at accesshumboldt.net Thu Feb 2 08:54:00 2012 From: sean at accesshumboldt.net (Sean McLaughlin) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:54:00 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] Extending coverage for mobile broadband services Message-ID: Hey Folks - On Tuesday the FCC held a workshop on Distributed Antenna Systems and Small Cell solutions to expand and augment coverage for mobile broadband services. TV coverage is now available online for review: Augmenting Mobile Broadband in Your Community - An Overview of Distributed Antenna Systems and Small Cell Solutions http://www.fcc.gov/events/augmenting-mobile-broadband-your-community-overview-distributed-antenna-systems-and-small-cel Note: Access Humboldt is a member of NATOA, a co-sponsor of the event. If you'd like more information, please feel free to contact me at Access Humboldt: 707-616-2381 Aloha, Sean ___________________ Sean McLaughlin Executive Director Access Humboldt P.O. Box 157, Eureka, CA 95502 tel: 707-476-1798 dir: 707-476-2873 fax: 707-476-1702 cel: 707-616-2381 DC: 202-495-0616 e: sean at accesshumboldt.net Visit our Website http://accesshumboldt.net Follow us on Facebook ?http://www.facebook.com/accesshumboldt and Twitter ? http://twitter.com/accesshumboldt "Local Voices Through Community Media" From dwightw at mac.com Mon Feb 6 23:07:50 2012 From: dwightw at mac.com (Dwight Winegar) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:07:50 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] National Grange announces 2011 Blueprint for Rural America Message-ID: <641B2551-CED4-4824-B1C5-9DFFC48E3427@mac.com> Just thought I would share with all of you an announcement I received here today from National Grange. We were also told the National Master Ed Luttrell is coming to CA on the 9th - 11th and making 3 or 4 stops across the state (nearest would be Sebastopol). http://www.nationalgrange.org/policy/blue-print-for-rural-america/ National Grange policy reflects a collective voting from all participating states at the national convention, and does not necessarily reflect specific state or local policies. Overall though, it seems that this 2011 Blueprint for Rural America is making some major headways, and addresses a number of things that are significant to US here in CA, Humboldt/Trinity/DN Countiess, and the greater Redwood Region. One of those most significant to this group, RTC, are found in Element 3: Rural Telecomm and Broadband Policies. I know there are other people on this list involved in a number of other things in which the other elements may be of interest in knowing about as well, and how Grange is working through lobbying and grassroots efforts on many of our issues. As the new 2012 Humboldt - Del Norte "Pomona" (District) Grange Master, CA State Grange Broadband Chairperson, and Lecturer of Bayside Grange, I feel it is an opportunity to share this with you, and open to hearing from anyone. Regards, Dwight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gregg at rredc.com Tue Feb 14 14:28:30 2012 From: gregg at rredc.com (Gregg Foster) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:28:30 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] RREDC Seeking Executive Director In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a801cceb67$fc1dec00$f459c400$@rredc.com> The Redwood Region Economic Development Commission is seeking a new executive director. Position announcement and job description can be found at http://www.rredc.com/ Gregg Foster Executive Director Redwood Region Economic Development Commission 520 E Street Eureka, CA 95501 707-445-9651 gregg at rredc.com www.rredc.com www.flyhumboldt.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smudley at suddenlink.net Tue Feb 14 14:36:52 2012 From: smudley at suddenlink.net (JRT) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:36:52 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] iPod in Recovery mode Message-ID: <000d01cceb69$266776b0$0300a8c0@topping03> Help, I have an IPod that was sent to me by a relative and came from Amazon.com. It stopped working suddenly and itunes said it was in recovery mode and must be restored before it can be used. I attempted the restore and was told ; "the ipod could not be restored,. an unknown error occurred (28)" I am out of my depth on this issue. Can anyone recommend a resource to help with this? 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Lawrence LaBranche Sent from my iPod On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback wrote: > > http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireless-network-plan > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at redwoodtech.org > http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org From patrick at biztechinfo.biz Thu Feb 16 10:30:45 2012 From: patrick at biztechinfo.biz (Patrick Moon) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:30:45 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: References: <4F3C89FB.1020402@gmail.com> Message-ID: I understand that thought. But, I think, we should be more worried about the pathetically shoddy job the gps vendors have done in designing their devices. I'm not saying light squared is squeaky clean. Heck I'm not even saying they should get the okay for their plan. I am saying that the GPS vendors and the FCC should really be the ones having their feet put to the fire over this. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence LaBranche Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:12 PM Cc: RTC List Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR Better that plan is killed before people are killed because their gps doesn't work. Test after test indicated interference to gps. We should welcome this FCC action, rather than comprise safety. Lawrence LaBranche Sent from my iPod On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback wrote: > > http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireless-network-plan > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at redwoodtech.org > http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at redwoodtech.org http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org From capdiamont at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 11:37:27 2012 From: capdiamont at yahoo.com (lawrence labranche) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:37:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: References: <4F3C89FB.1020402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1329421047.49899.YahooMailNeo@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The light-squared plan was fundamentally flawed. The FCC was told by many groups before, and after the tentative approval, that it would not work. If it wasn't for political pressure it would not of gotten this far. It would take billions to reduce the problem. The fundamental problem is GPS signals are weak by the time they hit earth. The Light-Squared signals are high powered. The high powered signals over power the lower power signals. It also sounds like Light-Squared did not do proper design by filtering out the harmonics of their transmissions. ________________________________ From: Patrick Moon To: 'Lawrence LaBranche' Cc: 'RTC List' Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR I understand that thought.? But, I think, we should be more worried about the pathetically shoddy job the gps vendors have done in designing their devices.? I'm not saying light squared is squeaky clean. Heck I'm not even saying they should get the okay for their plan.? I am saying that the GPS vendors and the FCC should really be the ones having their feet put to the fire over this. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence LaBranche Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:12 PM Cc: RTC List Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR Better that plan is killed before people are killed because their gps doesn't work. Test after test indicated interference to gps. We should welcome this FCC action, rather than comprise safety. Lawrence LaBranche Sent from my iPod On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback wrote: > > http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireless-network-plan > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at redwoodtech.org > http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at redwoodtech.org http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vantek at humboldtonline.com Thu Feb 16 12:51:08 2012 From: vantek at humboldtonline.com (William Van Hefner) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:51:08 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: <1329421047.49899.YahooMailNeo@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4F3C89FB.1020402@gmail.com> <1329421047.49899.YahooMailNeo@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F3D6C3C.1020901@humboldtonline.com> Lawrence, Political pressure is putting it rather mildly. The Obama administration is lucky that this didn't turn into a Watergate-size scandal, after military officials told a congressional hearing that the White House had urged them to tone down their opposition to the project, which most military experts warned posed a direct threat to national security. The Chairman of the FCC (an Obama appointee) mysteriously failed to show up for the hearing, even though he was one of the key witnesses scheduled to testify. He was lucky not to be held in contempt of Congress. I wrote a short op-ed article on the story, which appeared in last month's issue of CommsDay Magazine. Feel free to download a copy at http://www.commsday.com/commsday/2011/festive-reading-decjan-issue-commsday-magazine/ -- William Van Hefner President Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com On 2/16/2012 11:37 AM, lawrence labranche wrote: > The light-squared plan was fundamentally flawed. The FCC was told by > many groups before, and after the tentative approval, that it would not > work. If it wasn't for political pressure it would not of gotten this > far. It would take billions to reduce the problem. The fundamental > problem is GPS signals are weak by the time they hit earth. The > Light-Squared signals are high powered. The high powered signals over > power the lower power signals. It also sounds like Light-Squared did not > do proper design by filtering out the harmonics of their transmissions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Patrick Moon > *To:* 'Lawrence LaBranche' > *Cc:* 'RTC List' > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:30 AM > *Subject:* RE: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan > : NPR > > I understand that thought. But, I think, we should be more worried > about the pathetically shoddy job the gps vendors have done in designing > their devices. I'm not saying light squared is squeaky clean. Heck I'm > not even saying they should get the okay for their plan. I am saying > that the GPS vendors and the FCC should really be the ones having their > feet put to the fire over this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org > [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org > ] On Behalf Of Lawrence LaBranche > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:12 PM > Cc: RTC List > Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR > > Better that plan is killed before people are killed because their gps > doesn't work. Test after test indicated interference to gps. We should > welcome this FCC action, rather than comprise safety. > > Lawrence LaBranche > > Sent from my iPod > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback > wrote: > >> >> > http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireless-network-plan From patrick at biztechinfo.biz Thu Feb 16 14:05:58 2012 From: patrick at biztechinfo.biz (Patrick Moon) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:05:58 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: <4F3D6C3C.1020901@humboldtonline.com> References: <4F3C89FB.1020402@gmail.com><1329421047.49899.YahooMailNeo@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F3D6C3C.1020901@humboldtonline.com> Message-ID: <68669c9c-2267-4028-a442-0413aeda9b2b@biztechinfo.biz> So LightSquared says (http://www.lightsquared.com/uncategorized/the-spectrum-story/): "But let's be clear, the interference is not the result of LightSquared's signal bleeding in to the GPS frequencies. LightSquared has spent the last eight years investing in filters and other technologies to make sure its signals stayed within its assigned frequencies. In contrast, the commercial GPS industry never took steps to ensure that it kept to its own assigned frequencies. In fact, the problem with commercial GPS devices stems from their use of spectrum assigned to LightSquared. The commercial GPS industry is a little like a homeowner who builds his patio on a neighboring lot because he assumes nobody will ever move in and then gets upset when a construction crew shows up one morning and begins work on the new house next door." So, unless you can show that they are the ones bleeding, I am still more worried that the GPS vendors and the FCC are in the wrong. I realize that doesn't mean that we as a nation can afford LightSquared to operate. Just don't let FCC/GPS vendors off the hook for their lack of security/safety. Oh and I read you op-ed and I agree that a lot of this is politics. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On Behalf Of William Van Hefner Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:51 PM To: list at redwoodtech.org Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR Lawrence, Political pressure is putting it rather mildly. The Obama administration is lucky that this didn't turn into a Watergate-size scandal, after military officials told a congressional hearing that the White House had urged them to tone down their opposition to the project, which most military experts warned posed a direct threat to national security. The Chairman of the FCC (an Obama appointee) mysteriously failed to show up for the hearing, even though he was one of the key witnesses scheduled to testify. He was lucky not to be held in contempt of Congress. I wrote a short op-ed article on the story, which appeared in last month's issue of CommsDay Magazine. Feel free to download a copy at http://www.commsday.com/commsday/2011/festive-reading-decjan-issue-commsday-magazine/ -- William Van Hefner President Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com On 2/16/2012 11:37 AM, lawrence labranche wrote: > The light-squared plan was fundamentally flawed. The FCC was told by > many groups before, and after the tentative approval, that it would > not work. If it wasn't for political pressure it would not of gotten > this far. It would take billions to reduce the problem. The > fundamental problem is GPS signals are weak by the time they hit > earth. The Light-Squared signals are high powered. The high powered > signals over power the lower power signals. It also sounds like > Light-Squared did not do proper design by filtering out the harmonics of their transmissions. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* Patrick Moon > *To:* 'Lawrence LaBranche' > *Cc:* 'RTC List' > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:30 AM > *Subject:* RE: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network > Plan > : NPR > > I understand that thought. But, I think, we should be more worried > about the pathetically shoddy job the gps vendors have done in > designing their devices. I'm not saying light squared is squeaky > clean. Heck I'm not even saying they should get the okay for their > plan. I am saying that the GPS vendors and the FCC should really be > the ones having their feet put to the fire over this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org > > [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org > ] On Behalf Of Lawrence LaBranche > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:12 PM > Cc: RTC List > Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan > : NPR > > Better that plan is killed before people are killed because their gps > doesn't work. Test after test indicated interference to gps. We should > welcome this FCC action, rather than comprise safety. > > Lawrence LaBranche > > Sent from my iPod > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback > wrote: > >> >> > http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireles > s-network-plan _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at redwoodtech.org http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org From vantek at humboldtonline.com Thu Feb 16 18:50:37 2012 From: vantek at humboldtonline.com (William Van Hefner) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:50:37 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: <68669c9c-2267-4028-a442-0413aeda9b2b@biztechinfo.biz> References: <4F3C89FB.1020402@gmail.com><1329421047.49899.YahooMailNeo@web110004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F3D6C3C.1020901@humboldtonline.com> <68669c9c-2267-4028-a442-0413aeda9b2b@biztechinfo.biz> Message-ID: <4F3DC07D.5080008@humboldtonline.com> Patrick, As an amateur radio operator, I would normally tend to side with those that transmit within the legal limits using well-designd equipment and not manufacturers who make cheap receivers. However, in this case I believe the danger to public safety and national defense tend to make LightSquared's venture far too risky to consider. The risks just aren't worth the benefits. There are a lot of applications and a lot of equipment in the field that we would never be able to make sure was immune from interference. I'm not talking about cheap GPS receivers in cars. Those should get little, if any, consideration. It's the uses of GPS that most of us are blissfully unaware of that pose the greatest risk of harm to the public. The military can't even disclose the nature of all their systems that make use of GPS, for obvious reasons. The fact that they were so dead-set against it and put their careers on the line to speak out against the White House in Congress is a pretty good indicator that there is a whole lot more at stake here than is worth risking. Just the possible danger to private/public aviation is compelling enough an argument, IMHO. This doesn't even take into account possible future uses of GPS, which may require even more sensitive receivers. Nor does it take into account the added Generally speaking, I think that having frequencies for low-power satellite use and high-power terrestrial use right next to each other is a horrible idea. I don't blame LightSquared for this. The frequencies never should have been awarded to them to begin with. The audicty of them to think that they could push this system into acceptance through playing a game of high-priced, high-pressure politics does bother me though. If it weren't for their political connections, no sane investor would have gone near this company. -- William Van Hefner President Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com On 2/16/2012 2:05 PM, Patrick Moon wrote: > So LightSquared says (http://www.lightsquared.com/uncategorized/the-spectrum-story/): > "But let's be clear, the interference is not the result of LightSquared's signal bleeding in to the GPS frequencies. LightSquared has spent the last eight years investing in filters and other technologies to make sure its signals stayed within its assigned frequencies. In contrast, the commercial GPS industry never took steps to ensure that it kept to its own assigned frequencies. In fact, the problem with commercial GPS devices stems from their use of spectrum assigned to LightSquared. The commercial GPS industry is a little like a homeowner who builds his patio on a neighboring lot because he assumes nobody will ever move in and then gets upset when a construction crew shows up one morning and begins work on the new house next door." > > So, unless you can show that they are the ones bleeding, I am still more worried that the GPS vendors and the FCC are in the wrong. I realize that doesn't mean that we as a nation can afford LightSquared to operate. Just don't let FCC/GPS vendors off the hook for their lack of security/safety. > > Oh and I read you op-ed and I agree that a lot of this is politics. > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org] On Behalf Of William Van Hefner > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:51 PM > To: list at redwoodtech.org > Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR > > Lawrence, > > Political pressure is putting it rather mildly. The Obama administration is lucky that this didn't turn into a Watergate-size scandal, after military officials told a congressional hearing that the White House had urged them to tone down their opposition to the project, which most military experts warned posed a direct threat to national security. The Chairman of the FCC (an Obama appointee) mysteriously failed to show up for the hearing, even though he was one of the key witnesses scheduled to testify. He was lucky not to be held in contempt of Congress. > > I wrote a short op-ed article on the story, which appeared in last month's issue of CommsDay Magazine. Feel free to download a copy at http://www.commsday.com/commsday/2011/festive-reading-decjan-issue-commsday-magazine/ > > > -- > William Van Hefner > President > > Vantek Communications, Inc. > e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com > > On 2/16/2012 11:37 AM, lawrence labranche wrote: >> The light-squared plan was fundamentally flawed. The FCC was told by >> many groups before, and after the tentative approval, that it would >> not work. If it wasn't for political pressure it would not of gotten >> this far. It would take billions to reduce the problem. The >> fundamental problem is GPS signals are weak by the time they hit >> earth. The Light-Squared signals are high powered. The high powered >> signals over power the lower power signals. It also sounds like >> Light-Squared did not do proper design by filtering out the harmonics of their transmissions. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* Patrick Moon >> *To:* 'Lawrence LaBranche' >> *Cc:* 'RTC List' >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:30 AM >> *Subject:* RE: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network >> Plan >> : NPR >> >> I understand that thought. But, I think, we should be more worried >> about the pathetically shoddy job the gps vendors have done in >> designing their devices. I'm not saying light squared is squeaky >> clean. Heck I'm not even saying they should get the okay for their >> plan. I am saying that the GPS vendors and the FCC should really be >> the ones having their feet put to the fire over this. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at redwoodtech.org >> >> [mailto:list-bounces at redwoodtech.org >> ] On Behalf Of Lawrence LaBranche >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:12 PM >> Cc: RTC List >> Subject: Re: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan >> : NPR >> >> Better that plan is killed before people are killed because their gps >> doesn't work. Test after test indicated interference to gps. We should >> welcome this FCC action, rather than comprise safety. >> >> Lawrence LaBranche >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, JBilderback > > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146951314/fcc-poised-to-kill-u-s-wireles >> s-network-plan > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at redwoodtech.org > http://redwoodtech.org/mailman/listinfo/list_redwoodtech.org > From ian at iansidle.com Sat Feb 18 12:20:56 2012 From: ian at iansidle.com (Ian Sidle) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:20:56 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR Message-ID: <4F400828.7060801@iansidle.com> I know there is also a ton of devices that use GPS that you don't traditionally think of using as GPS. A prime example is time synchronization. -I know there is a lot of scientific research projects that require accurate time measurements but are not near an internet connection, so they use GPS to make sure the internal clock doesn't deviate too much. -Similarly, I know some computer data centers will put a GPS receiver on the building in order to get accurate time information for their local NTP server. Updating the time over the internet is generally accurate within a few hundred mili-seconds (depending on connection latency) -Another is cell phone towers, as most of the protocols are very time sensitive, where by being off by even a few *micro* seconds could result in loss of service. Getting time updates from the internet isn't feasible because the time update packet could get delayed before the time update packet gets delivered to the destination. GPS is also used to automatically track things (cargo shipping containers, inventory in mega-warehouses, fleet management,etc) as well as people (children, pets, parolees, people on bail, sex offenders, restraining orders, home arrest, etc). Many of these work with the *assumption* that GPS will work indoors and getting GPS indoors is hit-and-miss as it is. If lightsquared signal is as bad as they say it is then there is no way anyone will be able to get a signal indoors again and many of those services would have to switch to something else (probably cell-tower based triangulation). I'm curious if their license allows them to do terrestial transmission at all, as it sounds like that band is for Earth-Satelite transmission only and re-using the same frequency for earth-to-earth transmission would already be a violation of the FCC rules unless the FCC specifically gave them an exception for it. For better or worse, GPS is way too prevalent now and there would be huge ramifications for our economy if the service quality went down by a any noticeable margin. It's far too late to switch to something else. Even as a business decision, it sounds like a pretty bad idea. If they do somehow get to go on the air as is (which I think is a really bad idea) and it does mess up GPS as expected, then we would see them to get sued for billions (maybe trillions) from lord knows how many government and corporate organizations for damages. The volume of the number of law suits alone (and the associated legal fee's) might be enough to cripple the company, not to mention the PR Nightmare the company would get, even if they were found to be "in compliance" of government regulations. They better be really really sure it's going to be flawless or it's going to be a world of hurt and it doesn't sound like their own engineers are that confident about it. thanks, Ian From vantek at humboldtonline.com Sun Feb 19 16:02:23 2012 From: vantek at humboldtonline.com (William Van Hefner) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:02:23 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] FCC Poised To Kill U.S. Wireless Network Plan : NPR In-Reply-To: <4F400828.7060801@iansidle.com> References: <4F400828.7060801@iansidle.com> Message-ID: <4F418D8F.6010503@humboldtonline.com> Ian, I forget the exact number of locations they had planned, but it definitely involved a lot of terrestrial-based towers transmitting at power levels comprable to cellphone towers. There are already quite a few bands that overlap land and satellite allocations. Some even use the same, exact frequencies! Ham radio even has bands that use both land-based repeater networks as well as LEO satellites. Another one that has caused real prolems is the C-Band (3700Mhz), which is assigned to both C-Band satellites (uplink and downlink frequencies) and point-to-point terrestrial microwave communications. Satellite dish owners are just SOL if they receive interference from microwave users, which transmit at power levels that swamp satellite signals. -- William Van Hefner President Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: vantek at humboldtonline.com From sean at accesshumboldt.net Wed Feb 29 10:11:47 2012 From: sean at accesshumboldt.net (Sean McLaughlin) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:11:47 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] Policy picture for broadband media - some things change and ... Message-ID: Here's insight from one of my all time favorite wonks - Harold Feld! AT&T Poised To Fulfill Ed Whitacre?s Vision? Charging Aps For Customers and The Future of Wireless. http://tales-of-the-sausage-factory.wetmachine.com/att-poised-to-fulfill-ed-whitacres-vision-charging-aps-for-customers-and-the-future-of-wireless/ Sean McLaughlin Executive Director Access Humboldt P.O. Box 157, Eureka, CA 95502 tel: 707-476-1798 dir: 707-476-2873 fax: 707-476-1702 cel: 707-616-2381 DC: 202-495-0616 e: sean at accesshumboldt.net Visit our Website http://accesshumboldt.net Follow us on Facebook ?http://www.facebook.com/accesshumboldt and Twitter ? http://twitter.com/accesshumboldt "Local Voices Through Community Media" From bob at morsemedia.net Wed Feb 29 13:25:17 2012 From: bob at morsemedia.net (Bob Morse) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:25:17 -0800 Subject: [RTC List] California Center for Rural Policy Survey Message-ID: Posting for Connie Stewart: The California Center for Rural Policy at Humboldt State University (CCRP) is asking parents in the Redwood Coast Region to take an anonymous survey to tell us about their child care needs. Recently, CCRP released a report ?Local Industry & the Dependence on Child Care? ? which examines the relationship between parents who receive child care and local industries. The report also provides policy suggestions our community can adopt to help support parents in need of child care. Industries must be healthy to survive in the current economic climate, and they depend on a productive workforce free from worries about child care. To find out more about working parent?s needs around childcare, we are asking parents to please feel free to take the survey and pass the link on to anyone who may be interested:http://bit.ly/ccnsurvey. If you need assistance or have a question about the survey, please contact Connie Stewart at the California Center for Rural Policy at 707-826-3400. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: